Extractors for Samplable Distributions with Low Min-Entropy

Marshall Ball, Ronen Shaltiel, Jad Silbak

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Abstract

Trevisan and Vadhan (FOCS 2000) introduced the notion of (seedless) extractors for samplable distributions. They showed that under a very strong complexity theoretic hardness assumption, there are extractors for samplable distributions with large min-entropy of k=(1-Y) · n, for some small constant Y3>0. Recent work by Ball, Goldin, Dachman-Soled and Mutreja (FOCS 2023) weakened the hardness assumption. However, since the original paper by Trevisan and Vadhan, there has been no improvement in the min-entropy threshold k. In this paper we give a construction of extractors for samplable distributions with low min-entropy of k=n1-Y for some constant Y>0, and in particular we achieve k<n/2 (which is a barrier for the construction of Trevisan and Vadhan). Our extractors are constructed under a hardness assumption that is weaker than the one used by Trevisan and Vadhan, and stronger than that used by Ball, Goldin, Dachman-Soled and Mutreja. Specifically, that there exists a constant β>0, and a problem in =(2O(n)) that cannot be computed by size 2β n circuits that have an oracle to ς5. Our approach builds on the technique of Trevisan and Vadhan, while introducing new objects and ideas. We introduce and construct two objects: an errorless (seedless) condenser for samplable distributions, and functions that are hard to compute on every samplable distributions with sufficient min-entropy. We use techniques by Shaltiel and Silbak (STOC 2024), as well as additional tools and ideas, to construct the two new objects, under the hardness assumption. We then show how to modify the construction of Trevisan and Vadhan, using these new objects, so that the barrier of k=n/2 can be bypassed, and we can achieve an extractor for samplable distributions with low min-entropy.

Original languageEnglish
Title of host publicationSTOC 2025 - Proceedings of the 57th Annual ACM Symposium on Theory of Computing
EditorsMichal Koucky, Nikhil Bansal
PublisherAssociation for Computing Machinery
Pages596-603
Number of pages8
ISBN (Electronic)9798400715105
DOIs
StatePublished - 15 Jun 2025
Event57th Annual ACM Symposium on Theory of Computing, STOC 2025 - Prague, Czech Republic
Duration: 23 Jun 202527 Jun 2025

Publication series

NameProceedings of the Annual ACM Symposium on Theory of Computing
ISSN (Print)0737-8017

Conference

Conference57th Annual ACM Symposium on Theory of Computing, STOC 2025
Country/TerritoryCzech Republic
CityPrague
Period23/06/2527/06/25

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Keywords

  • Extractors
  • Hardness vs Randomness
  • Pseudorandomness

ASJC Scopus subject areas

  • Software

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